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Hey Guys-

Just wondering if any of you fall under the Police Department and have a 20 year retirement. We are putting together a new retirement proposal for our division and are looking for stats.

We are also curious to see how many have had ACO's retire? Seems we have a huge turnover as a lot of our ACO's have burned out or moved on. We are including info on compassion fatigue with our proposal, but any info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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I am considered a General Government employee even though I work at the police department, drive a police vehicle, wear a uniform and carry a gun. If someone wants animal control they have to call the police. However, my retirement followes that of General Government and not the police. Before I can retire with full benefits I must have at least 25 years of service and reach a minimue age of 55.
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Here is the complicated answer to you're simple question. We have the Texas Municipal Retirement System (TMRS), and many Texas cities use them for their retirement system. TMRS will allow retirements as early as 20, or when a certain age is reached, but it is up to each individual city to adopt 20 or 25 years.

The rule when you have worked for more than one TMRS city is that you have to satisfy all of the cities requirements before you can draw youíre benefit. I have worked for 3 TMRS cities, 2 were 25 years, and the last one was 20, but I would have to wait until 25 to retire because of the service with the first two. Unfortunately there are too many retirees drawing benefits now, so the word is that TMRS is going to up the minimum to 25 years.

You can also retire from one TMRS city, then go to work for another without effecting youíre retirement benefit, so long as you have never worked for that city before. I have 25 years of cumulous service, so I can retire any time I want, but at $1700 per month retirement benefit I canít afford to.

When I was in basic ACO training, they told us the average turn over was 18 months on an ACO. Of course, that was over 20 years ago, so things may have changed. There are a bunch of us older folk still around, but I donít know all that many who still work in the field. Most have moved into admin positions, or gone to HSUS or something like that. I know very few who have actually retired. Most have either quit, been fired or have transferred to some other position in the city.
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We fall under the same TMRS that GTO spoke of. Our department has never had an ACO retire. Our current Chief ACO has been here 19 1/2 years and plans to retire next year sometime. He will be the first!
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I know one that retired and went to work for another city in animal control, so does that count? I know one who retired and went to work for HSUS, and the supervisor at my previous city retired after I left (dang it). I know there are few agencies where the dept administrator hasnít been in the field in so long they canít remember how to use a pole, and those are the folks who retire from animal control. But most of us are in the field every day, and that is not something I plan to be doing when Iím 60.
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We have a 20 year plan. The longer you stay on the bigger your pension will be. We have one guy who has been with the county as an ACO for 30 years. He would "make" more money being retired then working every day but he loves what he does so everyday he is out there doing his thing.


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Careening ever so slightly off topic, I remember in a seminar hearing that the average ACO lasts 5 years on the job. Stress, lack of compensation, injury, frustration, inflammatory politics ... that's how most of us get "separated from employment." So retirement is for those lucky souls who survive long enough.
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Careening ever so slightly off topic, I remember in a seminar hearing that the average ACO lasts 5 years on the job. Stress, lack of compensation, injury, frustration, inflammatory politics ... that's how most of us get "separated from employment." So retirement is for those lucky souls who survive long enough.
See, things are getting better! When I heard the stat it was 18 months.
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Careening ever so slightly off topic, I remember in a seminar hearing that the average ACO lasts 5 years on the job. Stress, lack of compensation, injury, frustration, inflammatory politics ... that's how most of us get "separated from employment." So retirement is for those lucky souls who survive long enough.
Sweet! I am nearly to that 5-year make-or-break mark...guess I outcrazied the crazy job! YA!!!!!
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