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Sideshow 09-20-2010 12:50 AM

"Jersey City woman says boyfriend beat her with a cat"
 
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A 49-year-old Hoboken man was arrested Tuesday after he beat his girlfriend with a cat....
http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.s...s_boyfrie.html

DRNEGRIN6 09-20-2010 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sideshow (Post 90494)


That's why PD was going crazy Tuesday trying to reach me!!! I cover Hoboken on nights and weekends. Something went wrong with the cell phone call system and I was not notified; my partner was but his phone was off since he was off duty!!!

I'll have to find out what happened and let you know the details if I can get PD to talk to me about the case.

TollandAC 09-20-2010 11:07 AM

Ok.. so the woman says she is beaten with a cat and the PD has no info on the cat? Hmmm... can we say, drop the ball?? Maybe the man killed or severly injured the cat and he could be arrested for cruelty as well? OR maybe there never was a cat and they can prove she is not mentally stable. Seems the cat was a victim that was left out of this investigation.

DRNEGRIN6 09-20-2010 04:30 PM

I contacted one of the SPCA agents that's working up another case with me out of that jurisdiction. SPCA has the case; they picked up the PD report today and are looking for the victim to question.

Sideshow 09-20-2010 05:02 PM

That's just nuts.


Why do I sense a Lifetime movie in the making?

fyrdawg207 09-20-2010 07:30 PM

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TollandAC :
Ok.. so the woman says she is beaten with a cat and the PD has no info on the cat? Hmmm... can we say, drop the ball??
No, I wouldn't say that without more evidence. A short article from a news site, isn't much to go on.

We had a triple homicide & arson where the family dog was also killed. The detectives who worked the case obtained a full confession on all crimes & I asked about pressing animal cruelty charges. I was told "NO" by the powers that be, and that if I charged the suspect they would simply dismiss the charge. Lets face it, you get more jail time for a crime against a person then animal cruelty. Plus if he is charged the sentences will most likely be made concurrent and not consecutive.

Stay Safe

Fyr

DRNEGRIN6 09-20-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fyrdawg207 (Post 90713)
Lets face it, you get more jail time for a crime against a person then animal cruelty. Plus if he is charged the sentences will most likely be made concurrent and not consecutive.


Unfortunately, in NJ at least, most SPCA agents don't really care about the animal when it comes to animal cruelty. They care about the fine money that they can get from charging a person with animal cruelty. The cut can be quite significant. I am not sure about the agent that is working this case since I don't know him well enough. There are some good agents, unfortunately, the ones that I have had to meet in my workings as a vet. and as an ACO have all been corrupt or they put the blinders on and don't see what the others are doing when I complain about violations. I've been lucky to have worked with prosecutors that have refused to pursue frivilous charges that the SPCA have charged on some defendants.

The agent working this case seems to at least work up the cases somewhat. (I will be testifying for him in another case when it goes to court.) The one that worked in the area where my practice is in just took the word of the ACOs and admitted in court that he did not work up the cases and based it solely on "the reports". He did not even bother to find out if the reports were real or to even listen to both sides of the story.

fyrdawg207 09-21-2010 01:11 PM

Well that is definately different from here.

Here the humanesocieties have no authority unless it's granted to them by a muncicpality, and all fines go to the state regardless of who writes them or what they are written for (traffic, criminal or civil violations). The only exception to this is if you charge someone with violating a municiapl ordinance, the town gets the fine but they also have to hire someoen to prosecute the case.

AcoApril 12-04-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DRNEGRIN6 (Post 90729)
Unfortunately, in NJ at least, most SPCA agents don't really care about the animal when it comes to animal cruelty. They care about the fine money that they can get from charging a person with animal cruelty. The cut can be quite significant. I am not sure about the agent that is working this case since I don't know him well enough. There are some good agents, unfortunately, the ones that I have had to meet in my workings as a vet. and as an ACO have all been corrupt or they put the blinders on and don't see what the others are doing when I complain about violations. I've been lucky to have worked with prosecutors that have refused to pursue frivilous charges that the SPCA have charged on some defendants.

The agent working this case seems to at least work up the cases somewhat. (I will be testifying for him in another case when it goes to court.) The one that worked in the area where my practice is in just took the word of the ACOs and admitted in court that he did not work up the cases and based it solely on "the reports". He did not even bother to find out if the reports were real or to even listen to both sides of the story.

I agree with you on this one. Im located in Camden County , NJ and am a working ACO

Dale4 12-07-2010 08:54 AM

In northern New Jersey here I had a retired officer shoot the neighbor's dog for at large a lot. He got tired of the dog, a nice Golden Mix, so one day last year he found the dog loose, went into his house, got his hand gun and shot the dog through his side. I was told by the chief of police not to investigate as it would interfere with their investigation. Nothing happened to the man except they took the gun. I gave it to my SPCA agents... Now he's being prosecuted by them. These guys are great up here.


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